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Old 06-18-2008
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Summerteeth was a good album. I think it was the first wilco album I bought when it first came out. I remember listening to it back in high school, and really enjoying it.

I also have fond memories of catching Wilco play on the Summerteeth tour. I remember seeing them in '99 in St Pete Florida. It was such an awesome show, it was at the end of a tour, and the band was tired, but sounding great. I think the show went on over 2 hours, just rocking out, although my fondest memory of it was at the end when they broke into Casino Queen. God was that awesome. It seemed to go on forever, and it pained me to hear Jeff try and sing on it. It was obvious by that point his voice was going, but he was still up there trying screaming and singing and just wow. One awesome show. I saw them again in april or so of 2000 playing down in New Orleans, and that was also a great show. The next couple times I saw them they were good, but they never matched up with that first show I saw them play. That definitely ranks as one of the best shows I've ever seen.

I have mixed feelings about AGIB and YHF. They're both good albums because JEFF TWEEDY is a great songwriter, and his voice works great with the stuff. I think he has a big head, but that's a different story. All the experimental crap on YHF and AGIB kind of threw me off, and that partially fed into his ego. I also got sick of so many people claiming how awesome wilco is, knowing that the same people would likely have hated Uncle Tupelo. The whole "hip" indie music scene never agreed too well with me.

I personally really liked Sky Blue Sky, it seemed more like a back to the basics album. No experimental stuff, just plain good song writing, and great songs, I'd rank it as my favorite since summerteeth (although my favorite by far is Being There). That said, I think I'm going to have to listen to some summerteeth later this afternoon as I work on my paper. Although for now I'll stick with listening to another fine day.

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I hate the "experimental" direction these bands take. It usually turns out to be crap. Wilco hasn't been good in years.
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I hate the "experimental" direction these bands take. It usually turns out to be crap. Wilco hasn't been good in years.
As much as I like UT and early Wilco, I've got to admit that I really like the experimental stuff too. I think Tweedy, as has been mentioned, is a fantastic song writer and I like the way he's stretched out the genre. I do, however, skip over some of that white noise on AGIB. Tweedy even admitted that some of it was "unlistenable." I guess I like the fact that these guys get to do pretty much whatever the F they want to do. It actually took me some time to slow down to SBS, but it's great. Nels Kline is a terrific addition. The guitar work on "Impossible Germany" is really cool. There's a nice balance of jam band and pop on SBS. Anybody catch Tweedy's Nudie suit a la Gram Parsons on SNL singing "Walken"?
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Great Jay Bennett song: "Talk to Me". First solo outing after Wilco. Check it out.
How many solo albums has he got? And are they any good?
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How many solo albums has he got? And are they any good?
I'm no expert JayB, but "The Palace at 4 a.m (Part 1)" is underrated or simply under-promoted. The second song on it is the aforementioned "Talk To Me".
When I listen to it I ponder what Wilco would have been if Tweedy left and Bennett jumped into the driver's seat. I love the record. I also have "The Magnificent Defeat" but haven't actually listened to it yet (just picked it up).
I'm sure some other folks here could chime in on Jay's works.
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I love Summerteeth - it's one of those in my collection that I always go back to and think, man this is better than I thought. It might be a bit on the long side but sometimes so is summer...I think it fits.

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I don't think Wilco have made a bad album personally, although I'd agree Summerteeth is overlong.
I always thought AM was the one least people liked (not on this board so much but overall).
AM has it's moments, I always liked Casino Queen and Passenger Side a lot. I actually haven't listened to that album in years. I have the case in my apartment, but managed to lose the CD about 7 years ago, and haven't gotten around to replace it. It's a shame that I haven't, as it was a good album, although less remarkable than their later work.

I think AM just didn't differentiate them enough from UT, which isn't necessarily bad, but TWEEDY has really grown as a song writer since then.

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I always liked Casino Queen
Boy, you should have seen Ange and me jumping up and down when they started playing that in Chicago last September... and we weren't even inside of the venue!!!
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Summerteeth is my favorite Wilco album. I like the mix of the dark lyrics with folk/rock/pop sound, and it lacks the experimental weirdness of some later Wilco.
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I think AM just didn't differentiate them enough from UT, which isn't necessarily bad, but TWEEDY has really grown as a song writer since then.
I have a lot of fondness for AM. I think it has a roughly-hewn charm and a certain loose element of fun about it that is perhaps missing from the likes of AGIB and SBS.
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I dunno, maybe I listen to too much wierd crap, but apart from It's Less than You Think on AGIB I've always been a bit confused by people describing latter-day Wilco as 'experimental'. A few burbling electronic noises here and there, but really, does that make YHF and AGIB 'experimental'?? It's not exactly the Boredoms. They've always just sounded like a rock'n'roll band writing great melodic songs to me...
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Thanks Angelyne for the SNL video! How cool was that? Although SNL is not the hippest show around, I was still really happy for Wilco that they got the call. I was also glad to see SNL have a good musical guest for once. Why are cd sales figures so hard to find. Maybe I'm not looking in the right places. I know YHT got a gold. Anybody have any clues to the cd sales since then?
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I think that Jay Bennett's time with Wilco was well spent, and I think that Wilco is better for it.

With that said, I think he left at the right time. I think Wilco still uses remnants of what they learned from Jay's style, but bank more heavily (and properly) on Jeff's songwriting style and intentions.

If Jay was still in Wilco, somehow I think I would be sick of their shit big time. If you assume that their progression is growth (which is arguable), they would not have grown more with Jay.

Somehow I am guessing that this subject has come up hundreds of times over on Via.
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How many solo albums has he got? And are they any good?
He's got four."Talk to Me" is the only song worth getting on the first one, the latest album is probably the best. Read the reviews on the All Music Guide website for more details. Their reviews are usually pretty good.

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AM has it's moments, I always liked Casino Queen and Passenger Side a lot. I actually haven't listened to that album in years. I have the case in my apartment, but managed to lose the CD about 7 years ago, and haven't gotten around to replace it. It's a shame that I haven't, as it was a good album, although less remarkable than their later work.

I think AM just didn't differentiate them enough from UT, which isn't necessarily bad, but TWEEDY has really grown as a song writer since then.

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I Must Be High is a great song along with Box Full of Letters.
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Cool that BFOL was the " Letters to the Editor" header in the now sadly gone "No Depression"(UT Carter family cover!) mag. Also "Screen door" (UT) was another header. UT, Wilco and the Jayhawks will forever be known as the pioneers and spine of this great, underated genre.

Wilco did "Pick Up the Change" at the recent show I went to (New Haven). One of my favorites and a real surprise. First time I've seen them do it (4 shows, 4 tours)
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